I’ve been so curious if you would ever consider doing a q&a or another form of audio conversation with your daughters (if they would be willing, of course)? You speak so highly of both of them and especially having Ella’s creations shared with us here I would love to hear more from one or both of them, about anything really. I love your T&T chats and would love something similar with your amazing daughters. ❤️
There is a lot of talk about lockdowns coming back potentially this fall, people are speculating, some are predicting a stronger push on compliance and expecting maybe violence. I guess, I am asking you to speculate... I imagine our houses (most of them anyways) will be virtually useless if electricity goes out, you seem setup in a beautiful way but at some point I imagine heading for the forest is one’s best bet to survive? What do you think about this scenario, do you find that ancestral skills are more important and pertinent than homesteading as our future unknown unfolds? Is becoming proficient with building friction fires, hunting with bows, knowing how to make cordage and flintknapping an important use of our time right now/in general?
I have been reading and hearing about eating seasonally and it makes sense to me yet I love the idea of preserving the harvest for winter months and pulling out those frozen berries in January to eat over my pancakes! It’s said that if we are eating say blackberries in August that makes sense because we are getting a certain amount of UV light from the sun to be able to process that glucose but if we eat that said fruit in January with the UV light being different of course depending on where we live, that it’s harder for our bodies to process that glucose and that it’s stressful for our bodies. The argument that our ancestors have been storing summers bounty for thousands of years is said to work because they were spending more time outside in the winter and just all year round. I’m curious your thoughts on this and seasonal eating and eating those summer foods in the dark winter months. Thanks 😊
Hi! Thank you for taking the time to do this. I find you and your family so inspiring and encouraging. 💛 I'm curious how you made homesteading work when your girls were small. How did you accomplish more involved tasks (like canning) when things like "baby has to nurse immediately" were still part of daily life?
I have also have a mundane question. Basically, cleaning fat in the kitchen. I would like to use less paper towels, but can’t image putting greasy clothes in the washing machine. I use a cast iron pan a lot and so use a lot of animal and plant oils. Thanks for your input!!🌻
We don’t own any paper towels. We use cotton bar towels/cloths solely. I also have napkins that the kids made (though often we use the kitchen cloths as well). We also use cast iron, milk cows, use lard to cook with, have four messy kids, and clean bathrooms with the same cloths (probably taboo i guess, but it hasn’t caused any problems to date). I wash in hot water with vinegar and baking soda and use the dryer (high heat). All of our other clothes get hung to dry, but I use the dryer just to give them the extra high heat. Never had a problem with the machine nor with the grease or messes getting in/on my clothing. We have a dirty cloth basket in the kitchen and a clean cloth basket. We have about 80-100 total. They get washed every 2-3 days (we go through a lot!).
Thank you Natalie! Vinegar does break down fats so I will consider that! We do use our dryer for clothes as well. But I could do a separate wash. Maybe I just need to be more diligent about flushing out drains with hot vinegar!
I don't use paper towels either but would use old socks, old underwear, thin sheets, old blankets. This is how my mom did it. On the subject of cast iron, I use one cloth to wipe numerous times and store it in my oven drawer and then when it's full and greasy I do throw it out.
Also hang your rags (and all laundry) outside. The sun does wondrous things for it!!
We also use bar rags and minimal paper towels for the rate really nasty jobs. But mostly, our dogs lick our pans and dishes clean before they get washed! Takes care of all those good fats and they feel important! 😂🐶
Omg this is the death of me! I wash greasy towels and my husband had to replace our laundry drain line bec it started backing up and then he had to replace our kitchen drain line just filled with fat. I went back to paper towels and we are now looking into grease traps. Couldn’t figure out any good solutions.
We had to have a plumber come in for our kitchen sink with a snake on a motor, because ours wasn’t long enough! He had to put a on a separate sharp tip!😱
This feels like one of the most mundane questions anyone could ask, but it’s been burning: Can you explain your reason for staining/paining your house and outbuildings black? I imagine there’s a thoughtful reason, and thoughtful brand, since you are such a deliberate person. Asking at the risk of embarrassment for the “waste of a question” 😂!
I believe that's the one. Pine tar and linseed oil with a mineral pigment if you desire. It's an age old way to seal and protect raw wood without the horrible toxic fumes from modern stains/sealants.
Hi Tara, these Q&As are such a delight, thank you for doing them! I always have 100 burning questions for you as I read your essays and various comments, and can never seem to remember them when the appropriate Q&A session comes along. So for this round I guess I am going practical with the first thing that popped into my head. What do you (and Troy... since this is very much in his field of knowledge) keep in your emergency first aid kit for the family/household. What supplies/tools/herbal remedies do you find essential to always keep on hand. And if you are willing to also share the same for your vet/animal kit, as we have a farm full of critters too. Thanks!
I don’t have a good way to word this, but I would love a deep dive into budgeting. How to prioritize, what to buy in bulk, what to avoid, etc. my husband and I are lucky enough to live on his parents property so a lot of our funds can be put into good food but outside of that I would love more insight into how to live this holistic/nontoxic way in the most financially responsible way. Do you put important things on subscription (laundry detergent, toilet paper)? Do you buy in bulk as much as possible (such as with beeswax candles)? Make a list and wait for sales? I’m guessing all of the above but if there’s a specific method I would love to know. Thank you tara, as always, for sharing your life, words, and wisdom.
Janessa, we aren’t Tara and Troy, but live similarly, and have been on a single income for 6 years now, with two little kids + owning a home and totally paying off student loans. For us, we sit down every paycheck (if not more frequently) and analyze our income and expenses on paper, in a special accounting book we got. We do not pay for anything other than the normal bills, without discussing those things and laying out a plan for those ‘extra’ expenses. It is constant communication and re-prioritization, of both short term and long term priorities. We also pencil in a minimum that goes into savings each paycheck ($100, plus whatever is not spent on ‘extras’ by the time of the next paycheck. Has been up to $300 going into savings each paycheck at some points lately, which adds up quick!) while we can still purchase $$ bulk items. We buy most everything in bulk, and that is a significant outlay at any given time. It can be tricky, but I find that the adage “use it up and wear it out, make it do or do without’ really perfectly describes our situation. I try to use my time at home to make as many things as I can that we otherwise could not afford to purchase, both necessities and luxury items (such as organic undergarments I just learned to sew after getting the fabric on steep discount, to sheepskin rugs for our rooms after butchering lambs for meat). Some of it has taken me years to build up the skills, but it has been worth it. I have subscribed to emails from companies that I want to get things from and try my best to wait for sales. This has been an ever-evolving thing for us, but I hope something may help you 😁 it has been really life-saving for us lately!
Hi Kaelin, thank you for all the tips and suggestions! My husband and I hope to be in a similar situation in the future where I can stay home and homeschool and work on a small homestead of our own while my husband works. I really love the tip of sitting down every paycheck and having a discussion and I’m going to try to implement that, I really believe communication is key! I also definitely need to make the jump to buy more in bulk. It can be difficult since it is such an upfront cost but I know it saves so much in the long run. I’m going to add learning how to make sheepskin rugs to my future goals list! I appreciate your comment immensely!
Sitting down together formally each time in particular has helped us so much, I think. It has helped my husband feel like he has an equal say in how our household budget is spent, because even though he always has, he didn’t have time to even contemplate spending any of the money he was working so hard for! Now, he feels like our household and his needs are both met.
Also, I very much agree with you on the upfront cost of bulk spending. How we managed to do it initially was taking our tax return and using that on big purchases when we couldn’t afford it any other time of the year (and we were extremely broke in the beginning of our marriage) and then just stretching those out as much as possible. Bulk grains for us and the animals, anything whole food that stored. Last year we bought a whole beef for the freezer with it. Eventually we parlayed that into equipment too; each tax return we’d pick our top household needed item to purchase, regardless of cost. One year we got a Berkey, the next a Mockmill. That sort of thing.
Sheepskin rugs are so fun to make 😁 I’m so glad I could help!
Janessa, my husband and I learned this year you can use Castile soap for laundry, dishes (not dishwashers), and personal care. A little goes a long way. We buy in 30-gallon buckets and it's about $130/140 and lasts for maybe 6 months.
Hey Amber, this a great tip! Thank you for the suggestion. I’ve been buying Castile soap for a while now but haven’t made the jump to buy in bulk, I should definitely look into that sometime soon since we also use it for so much.
Hi Tara! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer all our questions.
I am pregnant with our second child due this spring and am already preparing myself for the sleep deprivation. I’m curious to what you did to support yourself during those long night and did your family cosleep? Any tips for dealing with this season of life is greatly appreciated.
Omg i am on the thick of it right now with my little one, she is almost 6 months and the last 2 weeks have been so rough. I had forgotten how bad it was. Some night I feel I don’t even sleep she just wakes and wakes and wakes.
I totally relate to this. I am 3 months postpartum with my 4th and have figured out the best way to get the best chance at not being completely sleep deprived is to co-sleep and learn how to nurse laying down so you don’t have to sit up and can still keep your eyes closed to at least partially rest. Also, I go to sleep when the baby goes to sleep at night so that is anywhere between 8-9. My other kids get up at 6am so I’m at least in bed for a good 9-10 hours, sleeping or at least resting for most of those. It stinks because my husband and I don’t get much time together these days but I know it’s temporary and we will start sleep training in a few months. I also take a bit of slow release melatonin, Needed sleep powder and phosphatidyle serine 30-60 minutes before bed and that has really helped with getting back to sleep quick for those middle of the night feedings. Also getting some morning sunshine helps to break me from the grogginess most days.
Can you provide an update on the book you are writing? Where are you in the process? What topics do you write about specifically? How are you feeling about it?
Thank you for these Q&A episodes, your answers are always so insightful and informative and I have learned so much from listening! have a rather specific question. I’m preparing to make herbes salees for the first time, do you refrigerate yours? I’m preserving/fermenting many new things this year and find that many recipes call for refrigeration. Surely this hasn’t always been the case? Fridge space is becoming limited and I’m interested in learning more primitive ways of preserving our foods. Thank you!
Melissa, Tara has mentioned before (that I and others second) the book ‘Preserving food without Freezing or Canning’ by the Gardeners of Terre Vivante as a great book about recipes like this
Hi Tara (& fam). Would you ever consider another subscription or group or chat or anything to dive deeper into more personal topics focused on the feminine??
Troy has his awesomeness going on inspiring masculinity and with a real lack of wise woman + the traditional family evaporating rapidly it’s quite lonely and often confusing for me on the feminine/mothering side. I see a lot of comments re: mothering young ones here and you and Troy touch on these masculine/feminine polarities in your relationship qa’s but there’s just so much more!!! It can get quite intimate though so I get it. Would just love some tried and true experience and wisdom to orient around when things get hairy trying to be the most energetic, open hearted, graceful, pure love embodying, receptive being I can be :)
I'm curious about what little rituals, sayings, nurturings did you share with your daughters when they were wee ones that you look back at fondly now? Sweet moments or habits of motherly connection. For example, a song you sung them or a special way to say goodnight. 💗💗
Hi Tara! I always look forward to when you do these. I always get answers to questions I hadn't thought of myself or improvements too things already put into practice.
My question is, what do you use for cleaners/laundry detergents around your home? I've tried some of the natural options out there and they have been mostly disappointing so far. I use a vinegar solution for most general purpose uses but maybe there is an alternative I haven't yet explored. Thanks!
Hi Tara! Love your q&a’s - id love to hear how you work with feelings of anxiety, overwhelm or hopelessness when it comes up for you. You and Troy seem to have such strong mental games. Also what style of meditation do you love best and why?
Hi Tara! I am hoping to hear your thoughts on red light therapy and saunas. OR if you don't use it/don't have strong opinions, your thoughts on insoluble fiber and its impact on detoxification pathways. Thank you so much!!
I was going to ask a question on the same topic so I will just tack it on here. I have been considering for some time getting an IR sauna but one person recommends near IR, another says far IR and I end up doing nothing. I seem to recall you were going to build a sauna and it got put on hold or maybe I'm wrong.
I’ve been so curious if you would ever consider doing a q&a or another form of audio conversation with your daughters (if they would be willing, of course)? You speak so highly of both of them and especially having Ella’s creations shared with us here I would love to hear more from one or both of them, about anything really. I love your T&T chats and would love something similar with your amazing daughters. ❤️
I would love this too!
There is a lot of talk about lockdowns coming back potentially this fall, people are speculating, some are predicting a stronger push on compliance and expecting maybe violence. I guess, I am asking you to speculate... I imagine our houses (most of them anyways) will be virtually useless if electricity goes out, you seem setup in a beautiful way but at some point I imagine heading for the forest is one’s best bet to survive? What do you think about this scenario, do you find that ancestral skills are more important and pertinent than homesteading as our future unknown unfolds? Is becoming proficient with building friction fires, hunting with bows, knowing how to make cordage and flintknapping an important use of our time right now/in general?
Isn’t it amazing we actually are even thinking these thoughts? It blows my mind.
I have been contemplating the very same thing over the last year! Love this question.
I have been reading and hearing about eating seasonally and it makes sense to me yet I love the idea of preserving the harvest for winter months and pulling out those frozen berries in January to eat over my pancakes! It’s said that if we are eating say blackberries in August that makes sense because we are getting a certain amount of UV light from the sun to be able to process that glucose but if we eat that said fruit in January with the UV light being different of course depending on where we live, that it’s harder for our bodies to process that glucose and that it’s stressful for our bodies. The argument that our ancestors have been storing summers bounty for thousands of years is said to work because they were spending more time outside in the winter and just all year round. I’m curious your thoughts on this and seasonal eating and eating those summer foods in the dark winter months. Thanks 😊
Hi! Thank you for taking the time to do this. I find you and your family so inspiring and encouraging. 💛 I'm curious how you made homesteading work when your girls were small. How did you accomplish more involved tasks (like canning) when things like "baby has to nurse immediately" were still part of daily life?
I have also have a mundane question. Basically, cleaning fat in the kitchen. I would like to use less paper towels, but can’t image putting greasy clothes in the washing machine. I use a cast iron pan a lot and so use a lot of animal and plant oils. Thanks for your input!!🌻
We don’t own any paper towels. We use cotton bar towels/cloths solely. I also have napkins that the kids made (though often we use the kitchen cloths as well). We also use cast iron, milk cows, use lard to cook with, have four messy kids, and clean bathrooms with the same cloths (probably taboo i guess, but it hasn’t caused any problems to date). I wash in hot water with vinegar and baking soda and use the dryer (high heat). All of our other clothes get hung to dry, but I use the dryer just to give them the extra high heat. Never had a problem with the machine nor with the grease or messes getting in/on my clothing. We have a dirty cloth basket in the kitchen and a clean cloth basket. We have about 80-100 total. They get washed every 2-3 days (we go through a lot!).
Do the vinegar and baking soda not just react with each other? Do you use detergent also?
Does the fat ever build up in your washing machine and cause issues?
Thank you Natalie! Vinegar does break down fats so I will consider that! We do use our dryer for clothes as well. But I could do a separate wash. Maybe I just need to be more diligent about flushing out drains with hot vinegar!
I always do a separate wash for cloths/rags. Never with clothes.
I don't use paper towels either but would use old socks, old underwear, thin sheets, old blankets. This is how my mom did it. On the subject of cast iron, I use one cloth to wipe numerous times and store it in my oven drawer and then when it's full and greasy I do throw it out.
Also hang your rags (and all laundry) outside. The sun does wondrous things for it!!
Thanks Louella! I appreciate you sharing what you do! I am definitely going to start collecting cloths and rags to start using.
We also use bar rags and minimal paper towels for the rate really nasty jobs. But mostly, our dogs lick our pans and dishes clean before they get washed! Takes care of all those good fats and they feel important! 😂🐶
Omg this is the death of me! I wash greasy towels and my husband had to replace our laundry drain line bec it started backing up and then he had to replace our kitchen drain line just filled with fat. I went back to paper towels and we are now looking into grease traps. Couldn’t figure out any good solutions.
We had to have a plumber come in for our kitchen sink with a snake on a motor, because ours wasn’t long enough! He had to put a on a separate sharp tip!😱
This feels like one of the most mundane questions anyone could ask, but it’s been burning: Can you explain your reason for staining/paining your house and outbuildings black? I imagine there’s a thoughtful reason, and thoughtful brand, since you are such a deliberate person. Asking at the risk of embarrassment for the “waste of a question” 😂!
I recently dug through the archives to find the product she uses for a project of ours. https://sagerestoration.com/collections/pine-tar/products/black-brown-pine-tar
I believe that's the one. Pine tar and linseed oil with a mineral pigment if you desire. It's an age old way to seal and protect raw wood without the horrible toxic fumes from modern stains/sealants.
Amazing! Thank you, Megan!!! Sorry that I missed this in the archives!
Oh I’m looking at their website - now I’m curious about their paint, too!
I’m also wondering why black and what type of product. Shou sugi ban and oil?
Hi Tara, these Q&As are such a delight, thank you for doing them! I always have 100 burning questions for you as I read your essays and various comments, and can never seem to remember them when the appropriate Q&A session comes along. So for this round I guess I am going practical with the first thing that popped into my head. What do you (and Troy... since this is very much in his field of knowledge) keep in your emergency first aid kit for the family/household. What supplies/tools/herbal remedies do you find essential to always keep on hand. And if you are willing to also share the same for your vet/animal kit, as we have a farm full of critters too. Thanks!
I don’t have a good way to word this, but I would love a deep dive into budgeting. How to prioritize, what to buy in bulk, what to avoid, etc. my husband and I are lucky enough to live on his parents property so a lot of our funds can be put into good food but outside of that I would love more insight into how to live this holistic/nontoxic way in the most financially responsible way. Do you put important things on subscription (laundry detergent, toilet paper)? Do you buy in bulk as much as possible (such as with beeswax candles)? Make a list and wait for sales? I’m guessing all of the above but if there’s a specific method I would love to know. Thank you tara, as always, for sharing your life, words, and wisdom.
Janessa, we aren’t Tara and Troy, but live similarly, and have been on a single income for 6 years now, with two little kids + owning a home and totally paying off student loans. For us, we sit down every paycheck (if not more frequently) and analyze our income and expenses on paper, in a special accounting book we got. We do not pay for anything other than the normal bills, without discussing those things and laying out a plan for those ‘extra’ expenses. It is constant communication and re-prioritization, of both short term and long term priorities. We also pencil in a minimum that goes into savings each paycheck ($100, plus whatever is not spent on ‘extras’ by the time of the next paycheck. Has been up to $300 going into savings each paycheck at some points lately, which adds up quick!) while we can still purchase $$ bulk items. We buy most everything in bulk, and that is a significant outlay at any given time. It can be tricky, but I find that the adage “use it up and wear it out, make it do or do without’ really perfectly describes our situation. I try to use my time at home to make as many things as I can that we otherwise could not afford to purchase, both necessities and luxury items (such as organic undergarments I just learned to sew after getting the fabric on steep discount, to sheepskin rugs for our rooms after butchering lambs for meat). Some of it has taken me years to build up the skills, but it has been worth it. I have subscribed to emails from companies that I want to get things from and try my best to wait for sales. This has been an ever-evolving thing for us, but I hope something may help you 😁 it has been really life-saving for us lately!
Hi Kaelin, thank you for all the tips and suggestions! My husband and I hope to be in a similar situation in the future where I can stay home and homeschool and work on a small homestead of our own while my husband works. I really love the tip of sitting down every paycheck and having a discussion and I’m going to try to implement that, I really believe communication is key! I also definitely need to make the jump to buy more in bulk. It can be difficult since it is such an upfront cost but I know it saves so much in the long run. I’m going to add learning how to make sheepskin rugs to my future goals list! I appreciate your comment immensely!
Sitting down together formally each time in particular has helped us so much, I think. It has helped my husband feel like he has an equal say in how our household budget is spent, because even though he always has, he didn’t have time to even contemplate spending any of the money he was working so hard for! Now, he feels like our household and his needs are both met.
Also, I very much agree with you on the upfront cost of bulk spending. How we managed to do it initially was taking our tax return and using that on big purchases when we couldn’t afford it any other time of the year (and we were extremely broke in the beginning of our marriage) and then just stretching those out as much as possible. Bulk grains for us and the animals, anything whole food that stored. Last year we bought a whole beef for the freezer with it. Eventually we parlayed that into equipment too; each tax return we’d pick our top household needed item to purchase, regardless of cost. One year we got a Berkey, the next a Mockmill. That sort of thing.
Sheepskin rugs are so fun to make 😁 I’m so glad I could help!
I love this! Thank you.
Janessa, my husband and I learned this year you can use Castile soap for laundry, dishes (not dishwashers), and personal care. A little goes a long way. We buy in 30-gallon buckets and it's about $130/140 and lasts for maybe 6 months.
Just wanted to share in case it's helpful!
Hey Amber, this a great tip! Thank you for the suggestion. I’ve been buying Castile soap for a while now but haven’t made the jump to buy in bulk, I should definitely look into that sometime soon since we also use it for so much.
Amber, where do you order that from? I need to badly restock our Castile soap and haven’t found it anywhere for a good price yet
Also just realized I said 30 gallons above. I haven't found THAT good of a deal yet but if I do I will let you know!
The unscented 5 gallon bucket is only about $100. It lasts forever. :)
Botanie Soap!
Thank you!! 🙏🏻
Great question!!
Hi Tara! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer all our questions.
I am pregnant with our second child due this spring and am already preparing myself for the sleep deprivation. I’m curious to what you did to support yourself during those long night and did your family cosleep? Any tips for dealing with this season of life is greatly appreciated.
Omg i am on the thick of it right now with my little one, she is almost 6 months and the last 2 weeks have been so rough. I had forgotten how bad it was. Some night I feel I don’t even sleep she just wakes and wakes and wakes.
I totally relate to this. I am 3 months postpartum with my 4th and have figured out the best way to get the best chance at not being completely sleep deprived is to co-sleep and learn how to nurse laying down so you don’t have to sit up and can still keep your eyes closed to at least partially rest. Also, I go to sleep when the baby goes to sleep at night so that is anywhere between 8-9. My other kids get up at 6am so I’m at least in bed for a good 9-10 hours, sleeping or at least resting for most of those. It stinks because my husband and I don’t get much time together these days but I know it’s temporary and we will start sleep training in a few months. I also take a bit of slow release melatonin, Needed sleep powder and phosphatidyle serine 30-60 minutes before bed and that has really helped with getting back to sleep quick for those middle of the night feedings. Also getting some morning sunshine helps to break me from the grogginess most days.
Can you provide an update on the book you are writing? Where are you in the process? What topics do you write about specifically? How are you feeling about it?
Thank you for these Q&A episodes, your answers are always so insightful and informative and I have learned so much from listening! have a rather specific question. I’m preparing to make herbes salees for the first time, do you refrigerate yours? I’m preserving/fermenting many new things this year and find that many recipes call for refrigeration. Surely this hasn’t always been the case? Fridge space is becoming limited and I’m interested in learning more primitive ways of preserving our foods. Thank you!
Melissa, Tara has mentioned before (that I and others second) the book ‘Preserving food without Freezing or Canning’ by the Gardeners of Terre Vivante as a great book about recipes like this
There sadly is no reference to herbes salees in there!
That’s because they call it something different- ‘Verdurette’ is their name for it
Hi Tara (& fam). Would you ever consider another subscription or group or chat or anything to dive deeper into more personal topics focused on the feminine??
Troy has his awesomeness going on inspiring masculinity and with a real lack of wise woman + the traditional family evaporating rapidly it’s quite lonely and often confusing for me on the feminine/mothering side. I see a lot of comments re: mothering young ones here and you and Troy touch on these masculine/feminine polarities in your relationship qa’s but there’s just so much more!!! It can get quite intimate though so I get it. Would just love some tried and true experience and wisdom to orient around when things get hairy trying to be the most energetic, open hearted, graceful, pure love embodying, receptive being I can be :)
I'm curious about what little rituals, sayings, nurturings did you share with your daughters when they were wee ones that you look back at fondly now? Sweet moments or habits of motherly connection. For example, a song you sung them or a special way to say goodnight. 💗💗
Hi Tara! I always look forward to when you do these. I always get answers to questions I hadn't thought of myself or improvements too things already put into practice.
My question is, what do you use for cleaners/laundry detergents around your home? I've tried some of the natural options out there and they have been mostly disappointing so far. I use a vinegar solution for most general purpose uses but maybe there is an alternative I haven't yet explored. Thanks!
She uses Marius Fabré’s olive oil black soap for lots of things. I’ve bought it before, and it is great!
Hi Tara! Love your q&a’s - id love to hear how you work with feelings of anxiety, overwhelm or hopelessness when it comes up for you. You and Troy seem to have such strong mental games. Also what style of meditation do you love best and why?
Hi Tara! I am hoping to hear your thoughts on red light therapy and saunas. OR if you don't use it/don't have strong opinions, your thoughts on insoluble fiber and its impact on detoxification pathways. Thank you so much!!
I was going to ask a question on the same topic so I will just tack it on here. I have been considering for some time getting an IR sauna but one person recommends near IR, another says far IR and I end up doing nothing. I seem to recall you were going to build a sauna and it got put on hold or maybe I'm wrong.